Last week, Polygon checked out an early preview for the fourth Spider-Man film starring Tom Holland and the first directed by Cretton (the previous three were all helmed by Jon Watts). Based on watching the first 30 minutes of Brand New Day, the upcoming movie feels like both a natural evolution of the ongoing MCU sub-franchise and a bold leap forward in style and tone. So we were excited to sit down with Cretton a few days later to talk all things Spider-Man (and a little Shang-Chi, too).